i like the way they snuck him in under the radar......
gsu responded that it was not a sanctioned school function. i didnt know classes were not considered school functions.

Not only that, but the Dean, (Dr. Debra Thomas) would have approved it and potentially a GSU President approval as well.

This should not stand. 6 months ago, the citizens of Statesboro united against this man coming into our community, yet a student has enough puwer to userp this? I call Bullcrap on this. We want answers!

I wonder if the dark thug did this for free? I wonder if travel expenses may have been mentioned somewhere.

I agree SGP, there are other qualified individuals in America who could have served on the review board. This was a political statement through and through.

If he were here for the sole purpose of reviewing the dissertation...then why the "comments" afterwards?

Stop with the hyperbole and witchhunt mentality already. You're behaving like he was going to be wearing a suicide belt into a classroom, and that's just silly. You know better.

Ayers threw himself into education, and has done a whole lot of good in the past twenty years in that field. *That's* why he was there. The reason it wasn't publicized is probably because either

a) The lecture was a small, private thing.

or

b) To keep from having to deal with overreaction from breathless folks with an axe to grind.

Jake, I have to contain myself in my response to you in this. You are UNDERestimating the severity of this situation. We haver already stated that this man wasn't welcomed in this city. Overwhelminly so. so 1) who are you to defend this terrorist (did I say he would try to repeat any of his actions here? No!) And 2) WHY would anyone want to defend this mans actions. By defending him you are completely defending his actions! WEATHER UNDERGROUND - DOMESTIC TERRORIST - When asked if he regretted his actions he stated and I quote "I REGRET WE DIDNT DO MORE!"

Shame on you Jake for defending him. I'm disappointed.

Jake Hallman,

Maybe we are behaving like ayers stepped on the flag...Feels he did not

terrorize police officers and their families enough?

bomb the pentagon enough?

recruit more killers, enough?

I read that he came to campus yesterday. Is he still there?

YES!! He is still here today!!!

I don't know a whole lot about this person except that he and Obama was good buddies. What I don't get is are the students so misinformed that they have to bring some one like this in to speak to them. What purpose could he serve speaking to students at GSU. Is he instructing them on how to blow up a bank? Since Jake seems to know more than the rest of us maybe he can enlighten us. Not being sarcastic, just trying to understand.

With a charismatic[3] and articulate[4] leadership whose revolutionary positions were characterized by anti-imperialist, feminist, and Black liberationist rhetoric,[2] the group conducted a campaign of bombings through the mid-1970s, including aiding the jailbreak and escape of Timothy Leary. The "Days of Rage," their first public demonstration on October 8, 1969, was a riot in Chicago timed to coincide with the trial of the Chicago Seven. In 1970 the group issued a "Declaration of a State of War" against the United States government, under the name "Weather Underground Organization" (WUO). The bombing attacks mostly targeted government buildings, along with several banks. Most were preceded by evacuation warnings, along with communiqués identifying the particular matter that the attack was intended to protest. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a communiqué saying it was "in protest of the US invasion of Laos." For the bombing of the Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the US bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the United States Department of State Building, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."[5]

The Weathermen grew out of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) faction of SDS. It took its name from the lyric "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", from the Bob Dylan song Subterranean Homesick Blues. You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows was the title of a position paper they distributed at an SDS convention in Chicago on June 18, 1969. This founding document called for a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other radical movements[6] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and achieve a classless world: world communism."[7]

The Weathermen largely disintegrated shortly after the United States reached a peace accord in Vietnam in 1973, which saw the general decline of the New Left.

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/weather...

FBI records on the Weather Underground - the thing is...not only his actions, but his unrepentent attitude towards them. People died. Lives ruined and he shows no remorse.

I'm not going to defend his actions, although I'll point out that the WU did take pains to warn the targets of their bombings before said bombings.

That said, there's no excuse to go around blowing stuff up.

(Or carrying guns and "tree of liberty" signs at presidential functions)

What I take issue with is the breathless "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD" over a non-event.

Even McCain said he didn't give two snits about a "old, washed-up terrorist."

There is no severity to this situation at all. The guy hasn't done anything in more than 30 years. He went into teaching, and he hasn't been turning out students who followed in his footsteps.

He was at GSU for, I surmise, a dissertation defense. He wasn't calling for violent overthrow, revolution or anything like that. Hell, the guy wouldn't even talk to the press for the past couple of years.

Yet here we have someone suggesting that GSU needed more law enforcement on campus because ohmygodohmygodohmygod, BILL AYERS, SATAN HIMSELF FROM THE PITS OF HELL, is at GSU.

Why are you so scared and confused? He didn't make any public statements, and he's going to be headed on his way.

What really worries me is your statement "What other people of questionable character are in leadership rolls (sic) at GSU?"

Calling for a purge? Witchhunt, maybe?

Mccain is an idiot and still thinks Barack Obama is a capitalist. Why not go ahead and bring up BUSH in your agrument, Jake. Seriously. The breathless reaction is by someone who can not believe that a terrorist would be welcomed into our city without a heads up from anyone.

Call it what you want, but anyone who wants to promote the philosophy of a domestic terrorist clearly needs to be reviewed by the people responsible for the safety of those at GSU. He may not be bombing things now, but he did, and given the chance would potentially "Do enough" this time. Personally? Maybe not, but spreading the seeds of his terrorism? I don't think that's an unreasonable possibility.

To say he hasn't done anything, he has preached anti americanism and procommunism throughout his carrier, that in itself is an opinion which we are all allowed, however, he's proven that he has the capability of resorting to violence to get his point accross and I for one would not give him the opportunity. He has never appologized, even when asked, ever. He's proud of the destruction of law enforcement agencies and the pentegon and had an active influence in 3 cop slayings because of his group, the Weather Underground.

He is an unremorseful terrorist. Call it a whith hunt if you must, but the city refused him here 6 months ago and someone at GSU felt it necessary to sneak him in for "Some" reason...wonder what reason that would be? I feel it's because he is a domestic terrorist. Anyone else have another name for him?

if he should be here if she should not....to me its everyone's right to choose if they want to listen to him or not...this is a free country and just my opinion but I believe college students are at the age where they need to start making decisions for themselves and not just go with how their parents feel on political issues.

Jake, you still did not enlighten us. I know you are a whole lot younger than I am but I know you are past college age unles you are furthering your education. So, in your opoinion, what can he offer the college students of today?

When is Domestic Terrorism a political issue, Sg?

you call it one thing i said another im not trying to fight and as i stated its my opinion that colleges students or anyone in the community has the right to listen to this man if they choose to. i personally would not nor would i want my child to but at some point children have to make decisions for themselves.

and just my opinion again...but everything is or can be a political issue :)

Good comment, SGirl. Kids do grow up and at some point become responsible for their thoughts and actions. I was just trying to get a grip as to what expertise this speaker could offer. I do know he was/is a college professor but of what I have not idea. I'll just leave it at that.

So to ask questions is wrong? I can't shake it. Who were invited to the "small lecture". Who are they? If its not a bad thing, why wasnt it publicized? Why isn't there a list of attendees? Certainly, if someone from the KKK people or Louis Farhakan were to speak someone would have something to say about it. So say if students want to listen to KKK people or LF it is there right, but on school property? As a school "invite only" event? Why not a Catholic Priest or Muslim Cleric? Why not a rapist who got off on a technicality and is really really smart and well spoken? What about a kidnapper who got off on a technicality and said he'd do it again if he had the chance. Would they be allowed to speak? What is acceptable to some is not to others.

What is free speech is one thing, what is kept private and in secretive meetings for fear of reprecussions is shady and should be questioned.

I agree SG, we have the right to free speech, but when one persons rights are infringed on and anothers are harolded, I simply can't stand by that. He didn't repent. Would do it again. I don't care if he holds the key to Heaven itself, until he shows people what he did was 1) against the law 2) hurtful and murderous 3) destructive and shows true remorse he shouldn't be given any type of forum. This isn't Chicago.

so jake, according to your logic, i can go over to your house and rape your kid sister and then blow up the house AS LONG AS I CALL AND WARN HER IN ADVANCE??
thats stretching it a bit dont you think.
and then i can throw myself into religion or education and come back twenty years later and go to your family reunion? just because it happend along time ago it dont count???
sounds like jakes been hittin that "evrybody be mellow" bong.
jake, sometimes you make good sence. but this aint one of them times.
im just sayin.

Okay, last post for today (I'm out of town and won't be able to post again until way late):

I'm in no way defending Ayers' actions. Don't distort my position, Wild. Bombings are indefensible.

But yes, I believe in forgiveness. It's part of my whole "turn the other cheek" thing that I read somewhere. And the guy has definitely changed over the years.

Just to clear up some misinformation, he and Obama weren't and aren't "good buddies." As a couple of influential folks in Chicago, they ran into each other from time to time, but to suggest that they're having dinner at each others' place every Wednesday night is a stretch, according to investigations from multiple media outlets.

And the thing is that we don't know what he spoke about. If it was a dissertation defense, he probably didn't speak much at all - just asked some questions to whoever was presenting their dissertation.

To me personally, the guy's pretty useless. I just don't see the point in getting up in arms over a quiet, non-political appearance at GSU and calling for more cops on campus *and* a purge of campus leadership.

And I'm not a ...but ...but ...but BUSH! kinda guy. Just for example, my judgment on him isn't based on his alcoholic, cocaine-using past. It's on his presidency.

SG, I think you may have made my point for me. If the KKK or Farrakhan were to speak, you can be darned sure that they'd be advocating... well, the stuff that they've been advocating for the past few decades. They've also been actively recruiting and turning out stooges. Ayers hasn't.

Heck, even look at Condi Rice's appearance. We all knew what she was coming to talk about.

Ayers, on the other hand, seems to have been on campus just to grill some poor soul on their dissertation (having been through an oral defense m'self, I can only imagine how tough it is for a doctorate). Maybe he spoke to a few people about education, maybe he didn't. At this point we don't know much, but I just don't see the need for hyperbolic overreaction.

Ayers is an unrepentant jerk, but the only thing he's a danger to is Heather's blood pressure.

But, since we're on the subject, let's look at what Bill Ayers has actually said about his activities.

First, he said multiple times that he never wanted to set off more bombs. The "we didn't do enough" quote is in reference to his efforts to stop the Vietnam War, and his group's abject failure to stop it - NOT about acts of violence. Ayers draws a clear distinction between the two thoughts in his writing.

Nitpicking? Yeah. But it's a clear nuance. The guy's blog approaches the subject of regret several times. Regrets, he has a few.

He's left that past behind. He's had a career in higher education that most professors would give their eyeteeth for. Since GSU is real big on turning out quality teachers, I think it's understandable why he was there.

But hey, if you really want something to freak out and get all outraged about, by all means, feel free.

Thanks, Jake. Have a nice day.

BULL Jake. Your quote was not about the Vietnam war. He was asked if he regretted anything he'd done! Come on now...

He didn't leave it behind, Jake. He continues to live it. His anti-Americanism is still prevalent today as well as his love of communism (Not to mention the federal buildings and pentagon he blew up). This isn't a philosophical debate, it is an actual Domestic Terrorist, one who used bombs to make a point.

My kkk/lf did NOT make your point. If the KKK member stated he'd blown up 5 african/american churches or if Farrakhan stated he'd lit fires to white peoples houses ....Stated it loud and proud and out there.....would they be welcomed? even tho it was in the not too distant past, just last year when asked for an apology he refused.

You call him whatever name you choose, as you are defending him as human. I'm sure Manson had a soft side to his mom, eh? Unrepentant is unrepentant and I repeat this isn't Chicago, and the same people who are heralding Ayers probably where Che' T Shirts and Mao backpacks. All three are wrong. All three did horrible things, only one is still alive and has somehow managed to weasel his way into the university system of Chicago and now has infiltrated our GSU campus as well.

NO NOTICE. NO ANNOUNCEMENT. I repeat, if it where a non issue, why was he ran out 6 months ago and then flown in under the radar yesterday and still there today and purposefully being kept hush hush?!

The 'Weathermen', a group which Bill Ayers was a member and about which he remains unrepentant to this day, murdered four people. They (Weathermen Cathy Wilkerson and Susan Saxe) were part of the gang that shot Boston policeman Walter Schroeder in the back during a bank robbery in Brighton (a section of Boston) Massachusetts in 1970. He died after attempts to save him that included giving him 77 pints of blood (source -Harvard Crimson). They also murdered Brinks guard Peter Paige, police officers Edward O'Grady and Waverly Brown in Nanuet, NY in 1981. Paige was gunned down with automatic weapons as he emerged from a bank carrying the cash. O'Grady and Brown were killed with a barrage of automatic weapon fire after they pulled over the getaway vehicle containing three Weathermen, Chris Dobbs, Samuel Brown and Judith Alice Clark. All charges against Ayers for crimes as a 'Weatherman' were dropped.
Source(s):
Harvard Crimson and Wikipedia

THATS WHY SHES MAD! Jake, its reprehensible that you come to this stance. It EXACTLY whats wrong with Liberal's today.

OH, Saddam only killed 14,000 kurds....if he had killed 16,000 Id be pissed, but 14,000....he deserves a second chance.

OH, Bill Ayers only bombed buildings and led a pack of killers in the 60's and 70's. If it had been in the 80's, and 90's then HECK NO....but hes changed now.

OH, Barack Obama only sat in Rev. Wright's church for 20 years. If he had been in that church for 30 years and a deacon, then I would be irrate, but 20 years just isnt enough time to absorb that hate.

...........

DEFENSELESS.....sickening.

My question is this...what did the Statesboro Herald know and when did they know it?

Phil's article in todays edition of the Herald said " Controversial Professor William Ayers made an unpublicized visit to the Georgia Southern University campus Tuesday to give a lecture on curriculum and writing."

If it were unpublicized, how did the Herald know it? Who took the pictures?

It's funny how the Herald knew he would be here...but another organization didn't.

If Ayers was only going to be here for a little chat and dissertation review...why was the Herald covering it? Other professors come in and do the same thing...and they don't have the coverage.

From what I understand he found out 1.5 hrs before the "Lecture" - he says he wasn't there. Didnt answer the question about the pictures.

QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS Walkie!

WE HAVE QUESTIONS!!!

I have never heard Ayers say he is sorry for his actions, that he regrets them nor has he ever uttered "will you forgive me." "I'm sorry" goes a long ways when one is remorseful enough to say it, Jake. He doesn't want forgiveness. I think he is very proud of his past actions.

I realize that Ayers was the candidate's choice and ultimately he could have been prevented by Dr. Thomas or Dr. Grube. There are plenty of other scholars with decent backgrounds that could have filled the spot on the dissertation committee.

GET OUT, AYERS!!!!! GET OUT DR. THOMAS!!!! GRUBE is outta here anyway.
As for me and my family we will not purchase ANY MORE football tickets, neither will we participate in A Day For Southern nor will donate any more money to them. Yeah, we like the business the college brings, BUT the college needs us too and we should show them we won't stand for crap like this.

http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/1...

According to his own words, when he said he regretted not doing enough, he meant in stopping the war.

Ok....how about the Connie CHung interview...do you not remember that??? Them being SO PROUD of their actions?! And they would do it again?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqsyzb...

They wish they had been more militant!

Seriously!

No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen
By DINITIA SMITH
Published: Tuesday, September 11, 2001
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LinkedinDiggFacebookMixxMySpaceYahoo! BuzzPermalink''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings. And he still has the ebullient, ingratiating manner, the apparently intense interest in other people, that made him a charismatic figure in the radical student movement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/11/boo...

So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ''I don't want to discount the possibility,'' he said.

THIS is who someone snuck in to our town. Student or otherwise. Someone approved it.

He placed small explosives in empty offices in hopes that people would pay attention to the fact that we needed to end the Vietnam war. He's no Saddam Hussein. And he's no danger to you or this town.

I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess, I'd say they didn't make a big deal over him coming for his safety.

BoroBlue - oops, your information is incorrect.

The Weathermen did not commit the bank robbery. Another group that had former members from the Weathermen did the bank robbery. Ayers was not one of those connected with the bank heist.

Here is your Wikipedia source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinks_r...)

(Notice: For some reason, the link is not recognizing the close parenthesis -- copy and paste into address bar for proper linkage)

Are you guys afraid that Bill Ayers is going to blow up Statesboro? Didn't he come before?

He's here to talk to some college kids, you know how stubborn they are? They won't listen to him if he tells them to blow up buildings.

This man hasn't done any criminal acts in 20+ years, right? Why would he suddenly change now?

Obama sent William Ayers here to indoctrinate college kids like he did with public schoolers.

http://www.statesboroherald.com/news/...

Pictures are stills taken from the video.

I was actually at the lecture to shoot video. I met the guy and talked with him for a few minutes before he spoke. He simply spoke to some education students about methods of teaching and the link between research and teaching. That's all. He's not the monster some of you folks are creating in your heads. Yep, he did some bad stuff in the past and hasn't been particularly repentant, but he's also done a lot of good on the educational front. I realize that intellect is not a real priority around here, but come on, people.

wow...tragic...terrorist means nothing...or should I call him a radical...maybe that would strike a cord. Seems if you are a radical about one thing and use bombs, you are welcomed and admired, but when you are called a radical for holding a sign in peaceful protest your are a national threat... the world is upside down.

Wow, eledbetter. You said EVERYTHING I wanted to say. I completely agree.

Obama sent him to indoctrinate? That is so off base. It's not the point at all.

Okay, sgp he was here to talk to college students. He was a terrorist twenty years ago. Has been teaching at a college for 20 plus years and had MANY chances to do any terrorist acts, and he never did.

Okay then M8, Obama sent him to GSU to blow up some college kids.

Either this is part of a brainwashing like the with Public school issue, or William Ayers is here to blow stuff up which he hasn't done...yet. I'd like to see GSU keep that a secret.

He was a terrorist almost forty years ago.

And Heather, the article you linked has more of a story. After it ran, Ayers sent a letter to the NYT saying that the reporter had distorted what he said, disputing that portion of the article.

GSU College Kid: "Whoa, did you hear that noise?" Professor: "We tore down the stadium...because it looked at us wrong".College Kid: "Then explain the smoke that says Ayers".
Yes, I completely see that happening.

what about his own words on Connie Chung, Jake?

eledbetter, thank you. You actually attempted to answer the questions I have asked here. Something rare these days it seems.

Why he was cancelled last time: & maybe an answer to why he was snuck in this time....from WTOCTV -

Bill Ayers visit to Georgia Southern canceled
Posted: Feb 09, 2009 6:38 PM EST
Updated: Feb 13, 2009

STATESBORO, GA (WTOC) - He was linked to President Obama during the election season and first hit the public radar in the 60s as a member of the Weather Underground, a group some considered terrorists.

Now, the name Bill Ayers is causing controversy on the campus of Georgia Southern University.

Last week, students and alumni saw the calendar for upcoming events. March 2, Ayers was scheduled to visit the campus.

The news caused quite a few people to start a campaign to stop Ayers from coming to GSU. Today, university officials say the visit is off.

The people who rallied against the visit are claiming victory.

"All our fees are going to be used to bring a terrorist to campus. I did not agree with that," Kelley Chester told WTOC.

Chester graduated from Georgia Southern in 1993 and has gone back twice since. As an alumnus, she has given money to the university every year.

As a doctorate student now, she pays tuition. So, when she found Bill Ayers was scheduled to be part of a panel on March 2, she and few others hit www.facebook.com with a page dedicated to stopping the visit from happening, including an email and call campaign to the university president.

"It's the tactics we don't like, blowing up buildings and things like that," Chester said. "It's not the kind of values we think belong here in Statesboro."

The Facebook page and support, may have helped. Today, Georgia Southern University told WTOC the trip is off and Ayers will not be coming to Statesboro because of money involving increased security.

"The outcome is what we cared about and the fact he is not coming is great," Chester said.

The school says Ayers was tentatively scheduled to be part of the panel event, but it was never set in stone even though he was listed on the event calendar.

They say increased security would have meant not only spending more money, but closing off several major parking lots and disrupting university operations, so they canceled.

Chester believes the pressure from the hundred or more people who wrote and called made a difference.

GSU officials say they don't endorse the thoughts or ideals of visiting speakers but they do welcome freedom of speech, a right they will continue to support.

So?
He hasnt blown anything up in 40 years!!

Oh, ok... that makes it ok then.

What bothers me about Bill Ayers is that he (to my knowledge) never did the time for his crime. So he basically got away with it.
Then to not have any remorse about the way he chose to protest the war, is a slap in the face to his country.
If I were an education student, I'd tell my prof that I wouldn't be attending this session. That would be my protest.

Ayers could say all day long that he's repentant for what he was apart of but I'm betting he'd still be decried as a dirty terrorist. Actions speak louder than words...at least they should.

PS: Jake, there's a difference between forgiveness and foolishness. You can forgive someone for something terrible that they did, but that doesn't mean you stay in relationship with that person or support them necessarily.
It can be foolish to forgive someone and then continue to be associated with them. Depends on the action.
Do I personally forgive Bill Ayers for what he did? Yes. I have no beef with the man. His past is forgiven. But, do I choose to listen to his radical rhetoric? No way. Do I want him talking to my kids? Def.. NO WAY!

He did wrong, yes. I'm not denying that. Didn't Jesus use sinners for good? Give this guy a chance.

No offense Susan, but you weren't there to hear what he had to say. Neither was I, but the one person on this blog who was there said this, "He simply spoke to some education students about methods of teaching and the link between research and teaching." I don't hear any radical rhetoric in there, do you? Let's not start accusing him of doing things that he didn't do.

Its not my place to forgive, the lives of the people he shattered is who he should talk to. I can however ask questions. Funny how so many people laugh it off, but no one answers the questions asked.

SGP, I totally agree with you.Jake is acting like a "lightwieght" terrorist. I'd be willing to bet that he is sitting in his little rolling chair, laughing his butt off, because he has your full attention. Jake is a rather oddball in real life. He dresses odd...he hangs with odd friends...he takes very wierd pictures of himself...he chooses his odd life and that is ok. But he gets a sense of "POWER" by choosing, the argumentive side of your belief. Most intelligent, people will believe as you do about this Ayers. It's not a drama of "OHMYGODOHMYGOD" it is a " about this man's questionable character. I think that the person that approved his coming here, has misused their power by using the sneaky tactics. By knowing what he did before and just overwhelmingly forgiving him, makes me very angry. I lost a brother to the V.N.war, and he was drafted and sent over there against his will. I was very angry with Jane Fonda in the 70's and I still refuse to look at her on TV or watch any movie that she stars in. To me she is filth and always will be. SO IS AYERS!!!!!! He may as well have spit in our boys faces as she did. So to Jake..you are a sad case!

It don't matter how long ago he did it, he still did it. He don't deserve no shining star here and maybe people don't want him around here no more.

Y'all kin raise cain about that there rebel flag but you let a known terrorist come on in? A flag ain't hurt nobody but you welcome a man who killed? Ain't never said he be sorry?

Some o' y'all done got some twisted logic in them there brains. Hatin' a flag and likin' a sick minded man. OOOEEEE! Somethin' bad in da water I s'pose.

I lost the word "CONCERN" It is a concern...not a drama...sorry bout' that.

SGP, to answer your questions:

Didn't terrorize police officers and their families enough?

See my answer from earlier today, he was referring to stopping the Vietnam war.

Didn't bomb the pentagon enough?

SAA

Didn't recruit more killers, enough?

SAA

Tell me, WHO let this man into our city?

He is allowed into any city he desires to visit, as far as I am aware.

Who in the law enforcement knows this known terrorist is at the GSU campus with thousands of Students (most unknowingly).

Probably none, but I can't be certain.

Why was this UNPUBLICIZED?

Probably for his own safety, but again, I can't be certain.

Who approved him to be on the dissertation defence team?

The dissertation committee is made up of professors selected by the student, they have to get the approval of the program coordinator, department chair, and the COE associate dean, then final approval goes to the dean of COGS. You could have found this out yourself by looking on the University's website:

http://cogs.georgiasouthern.edu/downl...

Why are we finding out about the "small lecture" he gave yesturday today and it was a closed session?

I'm not sure, but I imagine because he was just talking to a class at the request of a professor.

What other people of questionable character are in leadership rolls at GSU?

I am sure that the list goes on and on and on for miles and miles and miles.

Who is asking these questions and why were the voices of so many ignored the last time this man was a potential speaker at GSU.

I believe that you are asking these questions, and from what I understand, the last time he almost spoke at GSU it didn't happen because of the protests of the community.

Are the law enforcement agencies aware? What are their protocals for the safety of the people they protect?

I doubt that they are aware, but cannot be sure, and I don't know their protocols as I'm not in law enforcement.

Is there increased security on the campus?

I don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt it.

Who is the student that invited him and why would a terrorist have more knowledge than any other nonterrorist loving professor in the same league.

I don't think that the student's name has been published, but can't be sure. He is an expert in the field of education, which is probably why he was chosen.

"Expert" should be used rather loosely. The man is far from an EXPERT on anything.

If The Grand Dragon of the KKK in the 1970s came to GSU today to give a lecture in the Business department about Marketing, the same liberals on here defending Ayers would lose it.

Maybe Moammar Kadafi can come in the Spring. And bring the Lockerbie bomber with him. Its been a long time since he did that, and the Scottish forgave him. Maybe he can give our Criminal Justice students a lecture on life in prison.

This is hilarious. Liberals are by far the most accepting pansies in the world. Why do you have such a hard time with the word "NO". Were you disciplined too much as children? You dont have to say yes to everything:

(including, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Marijuana, Prostitution, Gun Control, Terrorists speaking at GSU)

Right on, Boro Blue. And I love that FrustratedMonkey's comment.

He holds the title of Distinguised Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar in the College of Education at the University of Illinios at Chicago. I don't think I've used the word "expert" too loosely here.

I find it funny that when you post what some think is an opposing viewpoint, you are labeled a "liberal."

Yes, in opposition to such radical things especially. To bad most "normal" people would love to have a cup of coffee with such a scholar.

Yeah!!!Just what Bulloch County needs. Some of that ole world Chicago politics.

His event was canceled because of money, not philosophy.

And the people that protested were ignorant of the facts just as so many are ignorant here.

Let me ask all the "conservatives" here a question: Would you protest this much against Madeleine Albright if she were slated to come here? Here's an excerpt from a 1996 interview:

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

So, "conservatives" which is worse: a guy who blew up statues and buildings to protest a war, but never killed anyone OR a Secretary of State who blatantly admitted her policies killed 500,000 innocent children?

Let see your hypocrisy in action.

It ain't ignorant to not want no terrorist, former or not, coming to your home town. I don't give a nanner what he done since then, how smart he think he be, and whether he talked about the color of aspirin, I don't welcome such trash as that in my home town.

You kin paint a wall any color ya want as many times as ya want but it still don't change the fact they is rotten spots in dem boards.

frustratedmonkey,
So then you would also not welcome Madeleine Albright?

Why don't the ones that think so highly of Mr. Ayers just invite him to speak at their house. You can set up some lawn chairs and charge admission. You can make all kinds of money.

I looked through the list of supports and below are those associated with Colleges and Universities here in Georgia. Just so you know, I did not exclude names from Georgia Tech – none appeared on the list. I’m sure as time goes that will change.

Current List of Endorsers:

Maya Minter,Clark University
Amanda Lewis,Emory University
Michelle Manno,Emory University
Ernesto R. Gomez,GA College & State University
Paula Baker,Georgia Public School educator / Georgia Southern
Theresa Hoogacker,Georgia Southern Graduate Student
Dr. Advis Dell Wilkerson,Georgia Southern University
Dr. Natalie Lambright,Georgia Southern University
Michael Moore,Georgia Southern University
Michelle Reidel,Georgia Southern University
Ming Fang He,Georgia Southern University
Saundra Murray Nettles, Ph.D.,Georgia Southern University
David W. Stinson, Ph.D.,Georgia State University
Deron Boyles,Georgia State University
Natsu Taylor Saito,Georgia State University College of Law
Joyce E King,Georgia State University, Benjamin E Mays Endowed Chair
Cindy Lutenbacher,Morehouse College
Kinga Varga-Dobai,PhD student, University of Georgia
James H. Williams, PhD, LCSW,Savannah State University
Lesley Graybeal,University of Georgia
Amy Heesacker,University of Georgia
Angela Green,University of Georgia
Cory A Buxton,University of Georgia
Deborah Bandalos,University of Georgia
Deborah L. Teitelbaum,University of Georgia
Dr. Melisa Cahnmann-Taylor,University of Georgia
Dr. Robert Hill,University of Georgia
Dwight Manning,University of Georgia
Elaine Cress,University of Georgia
Elizabeth Daigle,University of Georgia
George Stanic,University of Georgia
Greg McClure,University of Georgia
Hilary Conklin,University of Georgia
Jane Robinson Middleton,University of Georgia
Jennifer Nabors,University of Georgia
JoBeth Allen,University of Georgia
Joel Taxel,University of Georgia
Judith Preissle,University of Georgia
Kathleen deMarrais,University of Georgia
Kathy Simpson,University of Georgia
Kristin Boudreau,University of Georgia
Kyunghwa Lee,University of Georgia
Linda Gilbert,University of Georgia
Mariana Souto-Manning,University of Georgia
Marsha C. Black, PhD,University of Georgia
Mary Lynn Huie,University of Georgia
Melissa Harshman,University of Georgia
Page Conner M. McCormick,University of Georgia
Scott Ardoin,University of Georgia
Scott Ritchie,University of Georgia
Stephanie Jones,University of Georgia
Stephen E. Cramer,University of Georgia
Susan Nordstrom,University of Georgia
Todd Dinkelman,University of Georgia
Tracie Costantino,University of Georgia
Wayland Walker,University of Georgia
Mary Ellen Dallman,Valdosta State University

You know what I find really interesting? Some of the same ones that are so outraged at the Confederate Flag and all the hate it is suppose to stand for is 100% behind Ayers. What gives? We are still being punished for something that happened way before any of us were born. But still Ayer should not be held to any standard. Double standard, don't you think?

if its so wonderful that mr ayers blessed our ignorant little podunk neck of the woods with his old shriveled up hippy self then why was it such a secret until after the fact? are those that made his visit possible gloating at their success ?

Gina- I love coming on here and seeing how when someone comes on here to defend their views very calmly and intelligently they're attacked, called names and belittled. But you think you're so smart by not providing any facts.
BoroBlue- saying that you're not going to buy any more football tix or support anything GSU bcs Ayers came is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Actually, I hope you hold true to that bcs Eagles don't need fans like you.

Pulled out the GSU ones:

Paula Baker,Georgia Public School educator / Georgia Southern
Theresa Hoogacker,Georgia Southern Graduate Student
Dr. Advis Dell Wilkerson,Georgia Southern University
Dr. Natalie Lambright,Georgia Southern University
Michael Moore,Georgia Southern University
Michelle Reidel,Georgia Southern University
Ming Fang He,Georgia Southern University
Saundra Murray Nettles, Ph.D.,Georgia Southern University

I tell ya what, I'll answer the M.A. issue if she ever gets invited here...until then, to compare one travesty to another completely detracts away from the original blog I posted where some questions have finally been answered, yet not by anyone in the media, not by anyone at GA Southern, but a camera guy, who obviously disagrees with me but at least chose to answer a question asked because he was there.

If the time line was reversed and for 30 years he was a famous english professor and then last year organized planes to fly into the pentagon in protest of the Iraq war would you have a different view?

Burke,
I was not outraged at the Confederate flag. And I don't stand 100% behind Ayers. There is no double standard here. He was invited, and he came. No one died, no one was blown up, it was no big deal. Look at the facts before you start getting upset.

There is, however, a double standard when it comes to terrorism. If it's directed at this country, it is unforgivable. If it's directed at another country, it is patriotic. Millions of people died in the Vietnam war. It was a war for nothing. Ayers didn't kill anyone. He didn't even hurt anyone. It seems to me that the anger is misdirected at Ayers when it should be directed at the American government who caused the deaths of millions of people.

cb,
some of the same ones on here that complain about the confederate flag yet back ayers 100% are the same ones that are here just to jerk someones chain and start $h!t. then they try to make you look bad for telling them they are full of crap..
if ayers hadda blown up some black church back in 1970 , they would be SCREAMING racism , bloody murder, and ooh $h!t, dey be pickin on us black folk.
i call it like i see it......
who said that?
i said that..
WILDTURKEY 101.................

Gina, I am so sorry for the lose of your brother. That was a very terrible war. My husband's death was indirectly caused by that war. Exposure to agent orange. We had some very rough years upon his return from there. He did three tours.

Ming Fang he????
where in the hell did gsu drag that one up?
is that creamof sumyoung guy's brother?

Cacey, in my opinion any war is for nothing unless we are defending our own homeland. But that is impossible now because we have allowed so many to infiltrate our country.

A lot of anger is directed at our Govt./Obama and you don't approve of that do you? He is in charge now. According to a whole lot of people we should all be living high on the hog. Everything is all rosey and peachy keen. Bush is no longer in White House and Ayers spoke at GSU. WHOOPEE!!!!!!..

Turkey, that is Ming Fang shes husband. LOL

Cacey, I wholeheartedly disagree and domestic terrorism is something no one should have to live under. The threat of injury. The threat of damage. The fear of not knowing.

Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers WAS here, in our city, today.

same people who let george w bush in.

casey,
you have made it official. you are one that should not be able to breed. if you should happen to find someone who has drank enough, you should always be sure they are steril....

blinky blinky blinky....
i think i got something in my eye....

Wildturkey,
I am not sure I understand your logic, and again have to ask why you are so angry. I feel sorry for you, I really do. And I hate to inform you, but not only have I found someone, I've been happily married for over 10 years and I am the proud mother of two darling children.

I do believe that you must have been referring to yourself in your earlier comment about the people "that are here just to jerk someones chain and start $h!t."

I hope that God blesses you and lifts whatever burden you have on your heart that makes you say such mean spirited things to people who have done nothing to you.

I don't see why GSU would need to notify the public about this, it was for a student's dissertation and not a public event like the speaking attempt earlier in the year. I doubt GSU was even thinking of trying to hide this from anyone.

Regarding that earlier speaking attempt though, I did find it rather shameful how some people in this city reacted. If you don't like someone or aren't interesting in hearing them speak, then don't go to the even. No need to threaten lives. Sort of puts you on Ayers' level.

As for Ayers himself, he did take his anti-Vietnam War views way too far and seems to be a unrepentant jerk about it and I would've preferred the FBI not have royally screwed up their case against him, the fact is that now, he is very respected in issues concerning education and seems to have earned that.

casey, im sure you do.
did anyone at your house get blown up? if not, whats the big deal????

To be accurate, Ayers personally never injured or killed anyone and the group targeted empty buildings. Not really justifying what he did here.

David D...Threaten Lives? I missed someone threatening his life. I certainly didn't. Your response was well thought out. I understand his right to be present at a dissertation and my questions are who invited him.

Why is someone who lived by Saul Alinky's "Rules for Radicals" able to be in any position of authority with the younger generation? True, differing opinions matter, there needs to be open debate.

Seeing as how the last time Ayers was invited by GSU the reaction was overwhelmingly negative (so much so that they cancelled the event) and now a student uses him in his dissertation by request...but not only that, does a "Small lecture".

Who thought of and prepared the lecture in what forum? What questions were asked of him? Was it specifically about education? He is a public figure now as he gives lectures at colleges all around. Doing so opens him up to judgement as well as the colleges that allow him to speak there.

So who were the small group of individuals he spoke with? Why does his terroristic past not have any bearance on his present, to the extent even that people make excuses and try to reason with his form of terrorism as opposed to someone elses?

Thank you David D for the response.

I thought a Bank was blown up and at least one was killed.(security guard)

I remember reading quite a number of threats against Ayers on Facebook and elsewhere. Which allowed GSU to make the excuse of "security concerns/expenses" when they caved and disinvited him from the speaking event.

As for Alinsky, plenty of politicians and community organizers have read his books and learned much. He wasn't as bad a guy as Glenn Beck would've have you believe.

Burke,
I haven't said anything about Obama. Why would you assume that I don't approve of those who are angry towards him and the current administration?

The bank being blown up was done by someone else, I believe that intheknow posted the info on that earlier.

I was anticipating a more thorough answer DavidD, not just more rhetoric. Thanks anyway.

casey, did your house get blown up?

Because I know you approve of the job that Obama is doing and he is the Govt. You said the anger should be directed at our govt. and not Ayers. You have defended Obama on several occasions when others have disagreed with his policies.

No need for us to argue any further. I don't like to get involved in blogs like this. It's all in the past anyway We cannot relive the past. If we could I would certainly make a few changes in my life. LOL

Cute kids.

I didn't go to the dissertation or lecture, so I couldn't answer any of that. The lecture was about "education theory" according to the student newspaper.

Burke,
I don't want to argue with you, but you are accusing me of something that I have not done. Not once have I said that I approve of Obama. Not once have I defended him when others have disagreed with his politics.

cute kids. ugly mamma. always trying to start some crap on here. nitpicking all the time. wheres your "friend" casey?

SGP,
Have you thought about asking the people who would know the answers to your questions? You can schedule an appointment with the people who approved his visit. Mabye then you'd get the answers. I don't think you'll get them here, though I could be wrong.

Well, Journalists read the blogs, I was hoping either someone who attended or a journalist would actually follow up on the questions. I'm not sure why so many questions are allowed to go unanswered. Continuously.

Fluff pieces rarely earn anyone awards. I know who gave the "dean" approval for it, tho there are some questions on if it goes up to the president from there or if it stops at that sections dean. I'd like to still know the students name (sometimes dissertations are listed on the school sites.) this one wasn't. I am not a journalist, yet I feel like I know more from my own asking than anyone has actually reported on this known terrorist in our city.

Question with Boldness, that's all I ask. Yet, when I ask for people to ask questions, I get blank stares in return. I waited 2 hrs before posting to the blogs in hopes that someone else could shed some light on the subject. Good suggestion tho. :)

SGP,
If you find anything out, be sure to post here. I'm interested in their answers. From what I've seen, the Herald isn't much of a "hard-hitting" kind of paper, especially when it comes to the University. It's more of a "local-yocal fluffy" paper.

how do you know casey? you dont live here.

Wildturkey,
I have read the online paper. Also, when visiting my friend (who is very ill and has been in the hospital, since you asked earlier), I have read the print version. Would you argue differently regarding the paper?

so, you have an online subscription. why?

Wildturkey,
I didn't say I have an online subscription. I said I've read the paper online. You don't need a subscription to do that. Why the 20 questions? Are you trying to get at something else in a round-about way? Why not just ask what you really want to know.

who are you?
why do you hide behind your kids?
what interest do you have in statesboro?
why do you seem to try and start crap on here?
you ask nitpicking questions, but when questioned with nitpicking questions you get defensive, why?
where do you live?
how many times have you been married, and to who?
have you ever had sex with your husbands best friend?
why?
or why not?
do you smoke?
smoke what?
have you ever participated in group sex?
would you do it again?
have you ever masturbated?
why are you lying?
why are you blushing?
that should keep you busy for a while.....

who are you?
Cacey Jones, see my profile.
why do you hide behind your kids?
I don't.
what interest do you have in statesboro?
None really.
why do you seem to try and start crap on here?
I don't.
you ask nitpicking questions, but when questioned with nitpicking questions you get defensive, why?
I don't ask nitpicking questions, and I'm not defensive. If I were defensive, you'd be crying.
where do you live?
Near Atlanta, I'm not giving any specifics to anyone on this one.
how many times have you been married, and to who?
Once, to my husband.
have you ever had sex with your husbands best friend?
Dear God no.
why?
or why not?
Well for one, I am head over heals in love with my husband. Also, I am not attracted to his best friend. In addition, I believe that cheating on your spouse is a horrible thing and I would not ever do that.
do you smoke?
No
smoke what?
I don't smoke anything, and I never have.
have you ever participated in group sex?
No.
would you do it again?
Haven't ever done it, so I couldn't do it again.
have you ever masturbated?
Who hasn't?
why are you lying?
I have told the truth and only the truth.
why are you blushing?
I'm not.

Happy now?

One question for you, wildturkey, why are you so interested in me?

Wow.

Being a Christian pacifist, a phrase I feel to be redundant, I'll say this much regarding Ayers. I am not in the slightest intimidated by his ability to speak freely about whatever he chooses to speak about.
Why?

Because I am solid in the cornerstone of my beliefs. As a result, Ayers logically inferior assumption that violent actions can bring about positive change would not tempt me in the slightest.

While I don't presume to speak for anyone else, I for one have no problems with him. I've learned to be resistant to the violent mentalities of more than just Ayers. He is not the only one to believe that destruction and fear are good ways to bring about change.

I ask that we all just take a few deep breaths and realize that we have all got to live on this rock.

...Classy, Gina, real classy. I'm not all that odd, but if you want to paint me as a "little terrorist," you can kiss my odd butt. And keep my friends out of it.

And nobody, NOBODY gets to paint Eddie Ledbetter as just "the camera guy." Eddie's an incredibly talented and wise journalist who worked his way up the editorial chain and should be afforded some measure of respect.

My whole point is that, whatever you think about Ayers, to suggest that we needed extra security on campus because he might just have a flashback to 40 years ago is ignorant fearmongering of the highest order. Feel free to trash the guy for whatever reason, but don't behave like he's the antichrist.

(Disclosure here - as a grad assistant, I had a couple of students who actually *were* terrorist bombers a la the RAC attempt. Glad they went to jail, too.)

So Jake, had he done it last year, instead of 30 years ago, would your opinion change?

Hi,

I have yet to see any liberal defend the words of William Ayers on September 11, 2001.

Yes, his thoughts are his thoughts...and he has every right to speak his mind.

However, those words spoken on the most tragic of all days...border on treason. That's what I find so disgusting.

He used poor judgement 35 years ago...but used every bit of stupidity he could muster on 9/11.

Trying to wear the shoe on the other foot here...George W and all of his "Bushisms" could not match that.

Cacey,

"If it's directed at this country, it is unforgivable. If it's directed at another country, it is patriotic. Millions of people died in the Vietnam war. It was a war for nothing. Ayers didn't kill anyone. He didn't even hurt anyone. It seems to me that the anger is misdirected at Ayers when it should be directed at the American government who caused the deaths of millions of people."

That is why you get labeled a Liberal.

I work in Hinesville at Ft. Stewart. I see our soldiers everyday. THEY ARE FAR FROM TERRORISTS. They leave their families so that you can post on this site freely and bash them and call them terrorists.

In your crazy little mind up there in the ATL, you think that if we just bring the troops home, everything will be peachy keen. Unfortunately, there are forces out there that dont want PEACE....EVER. They despise our freedom, they despise the fact that we wont let them spread their dictatorships. We fight for the people of the countries. We fight for the 10-year-olds who now get to goto school and learn about more than how great Saddam Hussein is/was.

"Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

So, "conservatives" which is worse: a guy who blew up statues and buildings to protest a war, but never killed anyone OR a Secretary of State who blatantly admitted her policies killed 500,000 innocent children?"

Did you smoke an ounce of wacky weed before posting this?

The reason children died in Iraq was because of the policies of Saddam, not Albright. If we gave money/food/clothes it was immediatly taken by the military and dispersed according to Saddam's wishes. Our sanctions were enforced to limit Saddam's control, and the only effective way to EVER save those childrens lives was to remove the man from power, which LIBERALS now bash as a bad move.

Whats the bad move? Letting 5 million kids die because their leader cares more about Power than their lives, or removing a dictator that would have killed 5 million more over the next 10 years?

Liberals want their cake and to eat it to. It doesnt work like that.

You dont get to ask nicely and have things go your way ALL the time.

Hooah!! Great response boro blue. I have to say that we do find more support out there than the little handful of nit wits on this blog.

Amen, Boro Blue. I was one of those that had to say "good bye" more times that I can count. The first time being from Ft. Stewart when I was 7 and a half months pregnant. Try living through that. You may have a different view of our military.

Gee, am I too late to get in on the fun here, I just saw the blog this morning but it looks like a dilly or should I say daffy? So SGP is senator Joe McCarthy one of your mentors because it sure sounds like it or are you merely channeling him from the afterlife?

A tempest in a teapot so much ado about so little while the really big terrorists who kill millions of people just retire to their vacation homes after leaving office and you kiss their bloody feet. Get a grip SGP your priorities have slipped to the bottom of the barrel with this nonsense about Big Bad Bill Ayers and his terrorist plot to overrun Statesboro and establish a communist stronghold in the heart of Dixie.

Point 1--- While I think that we can all agree that promoting violence in an attempt to stop violence is hardly a reasonable strategy the question I would like you to consider is. Was Bill Ayers’ basic premise that the Vietnam War was a misguided and unwinable exercise in futility that killed 58 thousand Americans for no good purpose valid?

The American people eventually came to the conclusion that Mr. Ayers was right about the war in Vietnam and we finally withdrew but only after millions of deaths, disfigurements and broken lives. I am not condoning his methods but we should be thanking Bill Ayers for having the courage to do what he thought was right because without his protests we might still be fighting that disastrous war.

SGP I see that you like to play “imagine this” so lets play. Imagine that you are a parent in 1965 and your son asks you for some advise about his future, he says that he has been drafted but does not agree with the Government about the war in South East Asia.
Do you give him your best patriotic spiel about American exceptionalism about how America never makes mistakes or do you offer to buy him a ticket to Canada?
History has proven that Bill Ayers was right about the war why can’t you just admit that and get off your high horse with all the hooey about terrorists this and terrorists that. Speaking of terrorists how about the terrorist in the Bush administration, do you find anything bad to say about them, they really bombed people to death, they didn’t warn people that the bombs were coming no they dealt in shock and awe.

Bush and Cheney and their mob are the real terrorists with a million victims to prove it. How about sending some of your grievance’s their way or do you reserve your ire for well respected Professors who in their youth protested a vile war along with thousands of others that killed so many Americans for nothing?

Perhaps you are one of the “good” Americans that support their country whether it is right or wrong, is that it? No, that’s not it because you are now protesting your fool head off every opportunity you get by way of the republican led, Fox News, Dick Armey inspired Tea Party movement.

Are you a terrorist, should I be worried about your group storming the capital with the intent to overthrow the elected government of the United States? When I see the Tea Party Express coming down the road should I duck inside and hide until it passes? Now that I think about it the Tea Party people have much in common with Bill Ayers, I knew there was something fishy about this and now I know what it is.

Boroblue,
I am not a liberal. I am a conservative, and my voting record over the past 16 years shows that clearly.

However, just because the United States believes that what we are doing is justified, that doesn't make it right. When we send OUR young men and women to WAR it should not be for any reason other than to defend OUR freedom and safety. You are not the only one with loved ones in the military. I lost a very dear childhood friend in the Iraq war. He died trying to rescue injured soldiers when he stepped on a bomb. I proudly celebrated when my dear cousin joined the Navy after 9/11 and we had one last family party in his honor before he shipped off into the deep blue sea.

We were told that the reason the Iraq war began was because there was information that Saddam had WMD and was a threat to the UNITED STATES. When it was discovered that he did not possess such weapons, our soldiers should have been brought home. Instead we are over there fighting invisible enemies who will blow themselves up to kill an American just so we aren't labeled the loser of this war. Unless there is a threat to the US, our young men and women should not be dying.

Was Saddam a bad person? Yes. Should he have been taken out of power? Yes. Should the US have gone in the way we went in? No. Should we still be there? No.

There is a reason that so many soldiers from the Vietnam war were never the same again. They realized what many of us have realized, that at some point, WE became the terrorist and not the heroes. I'm afraid the same thing is happening now with the Iraq war.

And it IS okay to disagree with the government and disagree with being at war. It does not make you "liberal," "anti-American," "unpatriotic," or "anti-soldier."

Well said cacey, that Boro Blue is really a case of arrested moral development, unfortunately it is an all too common condition from what I can see.

Boroblue, that interview was conducted *before* Sept. 11. It just happened to publish on Sept. 11 and was actually printed during the wee hours of that day, before any of the events.

And Ayers wrote a letter to the newspaper very critical of the article, by the way, saying that it portrayed him falsely.

...But no one ever quotes corrections when they're getting all political, do they?

So SGP you and Uncle Bill are both protesters, that is something you have in common right? Bill used violence on property to get his point across and from what I have heard there are members of the fringe in the Tea Party movement who have also threatened to use violence even violence against the sitting President of the United States if the threats are to be believed and I think they are serious threats.

Which leads me to ask how are your protests and Bill Ayers protests different? Some of the Tea Party people have signs saying that the tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of tyrants don’t they, what do you suppose they mean by that? It is remarkable that you are unable to see the similarities between the movement you support and the protests that Mr. Ayers engaged in.

In a democracy sometimes your party loses what’s the big deal, why all the crying in your beer, why all the brash talk about taking your country back, it hasn’t gone anywhere. Bush was president for 8 long disgusting years but nary a peep from the Tea Party but now that the people of this country decided to throw the republican crooks to the side of the road you are all up in arms standing up for “your” country as if you own it. Come on give the democratic crooks a chance to do their thing it couldn’t be any worse.

Until the Printing Press runs out of ink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL! Winkin Slinkin and Nod, the best little printing press in the west.

By the way Burke I liked your comment about people tripping over your pets on the other blog. I try and keep a lighter next to the bed for the trips to the bathroom at night, without it I am in real danger and still do my share of tripping. Walk softly and carry a Bic lighter is my motto, two of my dogs are jet black and I often miss them in the dark.

I get looks of scorn about twice a week from my cats when I trip, stumble or outright step on 'em heading for the bathroom in the middle of the night without my glasses on.

Yup, I know that look Jake, they don’t seem to appreciate the fact that we don’t see as well as they do in the dark, lucky they don’t have the vote yet or we would be out the door on our proverbial backsides.

Though I think I can hear them occasionally talking behind my back about Pets Rights, those furry suffragettes. I keep feeding them though, otherwise I could start to look sort of tasty.

I keep a night light on in the bathroom I use mostly. I keep dry cat food on counter for Scrappy and I'd hate for her to jump in toilet. I also keep a night lite in utility room because I keep dry cat food on dryer for Gizmo. They eat different kinds of food. It's really dark at my house. Only one security light out front.

My problem starts before I even try to get up to go to the bathroom at night. I have to remove a blanket of live cats from on top of me! One sleeps under my chin and his sister sleeps on top of me. Sometimes one sleeps at my feet. They gripe and growl when I wake them to get up or roll over.

OH! I forgot to say that I have to leave toilet lid up or Nemo will jump on toilet and on to counter and eat all the cat food. He is a dog and weighs about 30 pounds. I would have never thought he would do something like that until I found his perched on sink counter.

A blanket of live cats, that will be with me forever. I used to sleep with a cat under each arm and a dog on my legs it was very cozy.

OTB.. did you say Cats???... or Cat fights???? This blog reminds me of a cat fight! LOL!

yeah its a catfight alright. now that pashun is no longer allowed to post for tea parties i guess she'll be looking for controversy everywhere.

Blink you are nothing but a hater!! I have seen nothing but negative, nasty, anti-Southgeorgiapassion hate comments from you here! I am starting to think you're either one of OTB's alter egos or Bill Ayers himself. What is it about being a jerk that is so enjoyable for you? Can't you disagree with someone without putting them down? I imagine "Pashun" is allowed to post what she wishes unless it is a violation of rules!! TEA party posts are not a violation! And why does it matter to you? Could you be a certain person whose tacky comments about a local TEA party gathering were made public?

SGP likes lively discussions. Why does it bother you that she does? Why not just ignore her blogs if you do not like them? No pun intended, but the "catty" comments from you suggest a personality disorder.

grinning at thought from WD post,, maybe Blink is in dire need of attention, secretly wants to come out of the closet to attend one of the parties s/he so often mentions??

It's gonna take a whole lot of "giggle juice". Anyone heard from Cat lately?

I have. She is slammed, busy with those Passion Parties. And she has two horses, a dog, a hubby and an adult son to care for, as well as a zillion other projects she takes on. You can find her on Facebook, where a lot of former bloggers have gone. I think she still has the giggle juice!

As for Blink, maybe he/she needs to attend one of Cathryn's Passion Parties, just for a little light-hearted laughter and potential purchases for some romancing that just may sweeten his/her mood.

For those who don't know, Passion Parties are NOT all about X-rated novelties - they have some really cool bath and body items, soy candles, etc. I can tell you from personal experience that Cathryn's parties are a HOOT!!!!

Geez...u guys jump from blog to blog...I cant keep up.

I just noticed OTB comment about a lot of us crying because our party lost. Well!!!!Mr.OTB!!!!What is your problem? Your party won and you are still crying over Bush a year later. Dang man. Give it a rest. I'm sorry OTB, I just had to point this out to you. Hope you aren't to mad. LOL

Wow Burke, great comment.

That's OK Burke, he will be crying next time a godless evil Republican wins. Then maybe he will give Bush a rest and start hating the next one.

OTB I have been on edge and in an ill mood myself lately, so I sympathize with you if you are feeling the same way. It seems you have been angrier than usual lately, and I hope things do get more pleasant for you, for me, for Blink and for anyone else who may have a bad case of full moonitis.

watchdoggie look back at pashuns posts from the past 18 months or so and decide who's full of hate. pashun is a pill and has been smacked down by her own party too.