MAGA - My Attorney Got Arrested
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President Trump's reaction to the execution of a search warrant on his personal attorney is a disgrace. These are professional law enforcement personnel; sworn to the same oath of office as Trump himself.

To characterize is as "a break in" is an insult to the FBI and the Constitution!

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Ironside commented on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2018 at 08:49 AM

The problem is the 4th Amendment.

It states: " The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

What crime are they investigating that would warrant destroying "attorney client privilege"?

Rob Rosenstein never stated what crime Robert Mueller was to investigate when he appointed him a Special Council, a requirement, under the 4th Amendment, to appoint a Special Council. That is why Rosenstein has been stonewalling Congress that has requested a copy of his appointment letter. He does not want it made public for everyone to see.

This move by Mueller to send the FBI to search President Trump's attorney's home, also has no crime associated with the granting of the search Warrant.

No one is safe from the government if this is allowed to stand. The very people sworn to protect the Constitution are the ones attacking the Constitution.

We are now entering into the cover-up phase of this investigation of the President. Robert Mueller, Rob Rosenstein and others in the "Deep State" are trying to cover up what they have been up to. It won't work, the truth will be exposed to the American People.

Bryant commented on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:15 AM

Ironside, your slavish devotion to all things Trump has obviously destroyed your ability to objectively review and parse events. I trust the Department of Justice, not blindly, but to a far, far greater extent than I do Trump - a proven liar.

Please continue to lament the non-existent "Deep State" and its purported efforts to do whatever you fear they are doing. And, as to a cover-up, Mssrs. Mueller and Rosenstein have impeccable resumes as impartial, apolitical public servants. More than can be said for our president.

spellbound commented on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2018 at 14:05 PM

Ironside: In your paragraph beginning "Rob" you state that the Justice Department is unwilling to release the appointment letter. Will this do?

Ironside commented on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2018 at 14:14 PM

Can you name the crime that Mueller was appointed to investigate? Please don't say what the Democrats and their media allies have been saying, "collusion". Collusion is not a crime. There is no Statue that makes collusion a crime.

So, what crime was Mueller appointed to investigate?

Bryant commented on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2018 at 15:27 PM

Ironside, you sound like a Byron York parrot squawking, "No collusion!" while ignoring developments arising from the investigation. But to answer your inquiry, see spellbound's post.

And, thank you, spellbound for saving me the research effort!

Ironside commented on Wednesday, Apr 11, 2018 at 19:58 PM

Again, what crime was committed that gave Rosenstein the authority to appoint Mueller? Non stated in that appointment letter. That letter is telling Mueller to go find a crime.

Bryant commented on Thursday, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:53 PM

As such a scholar of the Constitution, does not the concept of the function of a grand jury ring a bell - however faintly?

spellbound commented on Thursday, Apr 12, 2018 at 15:05 PM

A crime? It is illegal for a foreign country to contribute (in money or action)to a political campaign in an American election. That is a crime. Base 1 would be did that happen and can it be proven. If that can be proven then the next item is spelled out in statement i. If there were links between (in this case) the Russian government and members of/or associated with a campaign (in this case the Trump campaign) did they conspire (conspiracy is a crime) in actions during the campaign. Mueller's mandate is right there. As far as the charges publicly acknowledged--and sometimes pled guilty to--of Manafort, Flynn, Gates, and Papadapoulis, that is covered in statements ii and iii. A basic example of those two statements is the same as this: Candler County Sheriff's Department investigates a crime committed in Candler County. During the course of that investigation they discover evidence of additional crimes committed by the same perpetrator. The sheriff can now investigate those crimes provided the evidence discovered was done so legally. As a side note, that same Candler Sheriff discovers that a crime was committed in Bulloch County. He can't investigate that, but he can refer it to the Bulloch County Sheriff. Mueller can't investigate a possible crime committed by Cohen in a matter totally unconnected to the election and that possibly occurred in New York. He can refer it to law enforcement personnel in that district.

Ironside commented on Thursday, Apr 12, 2018 at 16:18 PM

What crime did Trump commit? Your explanation is everything the Left has been saying. You got the cart before the horse. First you need a crime than you can investigate. What crime did President Trump commit? This letter is a travesty of justice, and why Rosenstein kept it from public view till now, allowing Mueller to go on his fishing for a crime, which he still doesn't have.

PS: The only one who was working with the Russian was Hillary. If you are so concerned about foreign involvement why are you not calling for her to be investigated?

spellbound commented on Thursday, Apr 12, 2018 at 18:02 PM

Crime: please reread the Deputy Attorney General's letter. The original charge was to investigate Russian interference in the election (which would be a crime). "i." states that Mueller is to look into "coordination...individuals associated with the campaign..." Nowhere does it mention that Trump (personally) is being investigated (that's Trump's statement...that he's being investigated). Neither Rosenstein in drafting the letter nor Mueller in a statement relayed to Trump's lawyers state that he is a TARGET of the investigation at this time. The investigation is still on-going. Russians--in absentia--have been charged, and I assume Mueller is still investigating whether there was any coordination (conspiring) with "individuals associated with the campaign." Hopefully for Trump he wasn't one of those conspiring.

Ironside commented on Thursday, Apr 12, 2018 at 20:33 PM

Rosenstein does not name any person that committed a crime that needs to be investigated. What this is, is your guilty till you prove you are innocent. The cart is before the horse. This is third world justice not American Constitutional Justice. The Left needs to go back to school and learn American Justice.

PS: Care to comment on Hillary's involvement with Russians? She did conspire with Russians as reported by the New York Times. She gets a free pass on this like she did on her emails.
So, Rosenstein, Comey, and Mueller use selective enforcement of justice, Left Wing Justice.

spellbound commented on Friday, Apr 13, 2018 at 06:04 AM

"Rosenstein does not name any person that committed a crime that needs to be investigated. What this is, is your guilty till you prove you are innocent." I don't think this is the argument you want to make. I always thought that if a crime was discovered an investigation would occur to discover the perpetrator of the crime. The way you worded your argument seems incorrect. The crime, according to our intelligence community (both the previous one and Coats, Rogers, and Pompeo) was the interference of another nation in an American election. To go back to your quoted statement, it appears to say that if an investigation can't name the person who committed the crime, it shouldn't take place. If we ever have another murder in Bulloch County, we're screwed. Unless we can name the person who committed the crime, an investigation shouldn't take place. That appears to be what you have put forth.

Ironside commented on Friday, Apr 13, 2018 at 08:49 AM

once again I ask that famous question what crime was committed by an American to warrant this witch hunt? Only Hillary worked with the Russians to try and win the election!

To the readers: You will never address Hillary's involvement with Russians or the selective justice she has received from Rosenstein, Comey, and Muerller.

Bryant commented on Friday, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:08 AM

Ironside, you attempt to hide the circular logic (and I use the word logic in the loosest sense of the word) of your posts by again deflecting to the evil witch Hillary.

The Russians interfered and attempted to influence our 2016 election. That is a fact and if you don't accept that assessment by our intelligence agencies there is not longer any need to debate.


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