Israel and Palestine: Stop Fighting, Please!
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The situation in the Middle East is unraveling quickly, since two separate killings. First, there were the murders of the three Israeli youths (one of whom had American citizenship) who were kidnapped as they were hitch-hiking back to their homes in the communities of the West Bank.


Hamas fighters are accused of kidnapping, and then executing, the three teenagers with a silenced pistols, the traditional assassin’s weapon, once their apparent desire to trade these youths for Israeli-held prisoners came into question. The actual murders were overheard on one of the youth’s cellphone.


If that wasn’t bad enough, what then took place stoked the fires even more: the apparent revenge killing of a Palestinian youth, Muhammed Abu Khdeir. This horrific murder has galvanized many in the Israeli society whom heretofore had stayed silent when Palestinian youths were killed in clashes.


It turns out that the six Israelis who burned Abu Khdeir alive were “delinquent youths” who were all members of one extended family in the Sephardic haredi Shas movement. Rabbi Shalem Cohen, the Sephardic Shas spiritual leader, has declared these youths act so vile that they now fall under the Jewish law of “Rodef.”


“Rodef” states that if the act of one Jew endangers all the others he may be killed before he causes others that harm. His counterpart in the non-hassidic Ashkenazi haredi community, Rabbi Aharon Leib Steinman, also firmly condemned the killing by these haredi youth.


Most of the Western World have little knowledge of Israel’s political situation. The two main political groups, the Likud Party and the Labor Party, were formed by the two primary groups of Jews who immigrated to Israel.


The Labor Party is supported by most of the Ashkenazim, while the Likud Party has the Sephardim as its largest groups of supporters.Their ethnic differences have been at the root of most of Israel's political crises.


The Sephardim came from the Spanish Peninsula. They were considered to be the wealthier and more highly-educated Jews. The Ashkenazim came from Central and Eastern Europe. They were known as merchants, tradesmen, and money-lenders.


Israel's military is attacking Hamas’ underground rocket launch sites, command and control bunkers, attack tunnels, training centers, and Hamas commanders’ houses. Hamas, on the other hand, is simply firing rockets at Israel’s population centers.


So far, Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense shield has prevented almost all of Hamas’ rockets from hitting their targets.To make matters even worse, a splinter Lebanese militant group in southern Lebanon has now begun firing rockets into northern Israel.


The one good thing about the latest Lebanese rocket attacks is that they are apparently not the acts of Hezbollah, according to Israel’s Major General Amos Gilad, the Director of Political-Security Affairs in the Israeli Defense Ministry.


Were Hezbollah to enter the fray using Lebanon's borders as its cover, the situation might expand beyond other national borders. However, Hezbollah fighters are rather busy right now, as they are engaged in a major Syrian army push into the rebel-held city of Aleppo


The situation in Syria is likely to prevent Bashar al-Assad from throwing his own military into the conflict, something which gives Israeli military leaders some comfort I’m sure. What’s left of his air force and armored divisions are fully engaged in battling not only the Syrian opposition but the newly-declared Caliphate Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.


Furthermore, Egypt is not likely to come charging across their borders to assist the Palestinians for two reasons: Egypt is no longer governed by the Muslim Brotherhood; and Hamas has been assisting Egyptian militants in the Sinai Desert fight the new Egyptian government. This fact is also most assuredly making the Israeli military more comfortable.


Now, the President of the United States of America, Hussein Barack Obama, has offered Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu his assistance in helping both the Israeli and Palestinian governments reach a mutually-acceptable cease-fire as was done in 2012. Mahmoud Abbas has asked the United Nations, always a friend to the Palestinians, to step in and mediate the dispute.


Whichever way peace is achieved, world leaders are unanimously asking that the fighting stop, for fear of igniting the severely-dry tinderbox that the Middle East is.


I believe no one is going to gain from continued fighting: the Palestinians are not going to gain any support from their current or former allies towards their declared goal of establishing an independent homeland, and the Israelis aren’t looking to capture any additional territory. They simply want the rocket attacks on their homeland to stop.


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theflyonthewall commented on Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 15:13 PM

If we were to stop bankrolling the Israelis, they would not be emboldened to bulldoze Palestinian houses and seize Palestinian land. Perhaps, that might be a beginning.

Charles_and_Angie_Howell commented on Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 16:32 PM

If the Palestinians were stop their terroristic attacks against Israel, perhaps the region could enjoy some peace.

I cannot fault Israel for self defense.

theflyonthewall commented on Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 17:05 PM

World opinion is turning against the Israeli apartheid state. We would be wise to distance ourselves from Israeli defense efforts.Let them learn to live with neighbors.

Charles_and_Angie_Howell commented on Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 22:04 PM

World Opinion is not always right.

I agree with Israel's policies. They made peace with Jordan and Egypt - no conflict anymore. The Palestinians should try acting like civilized humans with a 'religion of peace' instead of intolerant savages.

BTW - Israel has a fairly multi-cultural society that INCLUDES Arabs/Muslims. Palestinians (et al) seem to practice more apartheid against Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc than perhaps even S Africa did. Muslims can't even seem to get along with each other

Passinthru commented on Saturday, Jul 12, 2014 at 13:28 PM

Theflyonthewall appears to be an anti-Semitic who would fit well into the Palestinian society that has vowed genocide against the Israelis.

And when it comes to bankrolling, it does not seem to bother him/her that hundreds of millions of our tax dollars fund the Palestinian Unity Government that includes terrorist groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, responsible for the indiscriminate bombing of many school busses, restaurants, shopping malls and other mass murder sites…..or maybe in his/her opinion that is just considered to be your tax money at work?

theflyonthewall commented on Saturday, Jul 12, 2014 at 19:10 PM

Passingthru, Arabs are also Semites! Quit hyperventilating and read up on the subject.

Passinthru commented on Tuesday, Jul 15, 2014 at 19:22 PM

Fly, your weasel wordage does not excuse your anti-Semitism, which, as I am sure you know, is defined as hatred of Jews, not Arabs or other Semitic peoples……..neither, I notice, do you deny your apparent support for U.S. Federal funding of terrorism in Palestine.

theflyonthewall commented on Wednesday, Jul 16, 2014 at 06:29 AM

So anyone who opposes Israeli foreign policy is anti-Semitic ? Fallacy count: equivocation,accent,factor ignored, classification and division, and either/or. Nice alliteration: weasel words, neither I notice.

Passinthru commented on Monday, Jul 21, 2014 at 14:08 PM

“So anyone who opposes Israeli foreign policy is anti-Semitic?” these are your words; my use of the term obviously referenced your attitude towards Israelis.

The remainder of your post is a clear diversion from the question, rather than respond to its content you chose to perform what appears to be a garbled critique of sentence structure. How surprising.

theflyonthewall commented on Monday, Jul 21, 2014 at 18:04 PM

Perhaps you should reference the Israeli use of fleshettes and white phosphorus. I can think of better uses for US tax dollars.


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