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Did we have a shut down that the response from the average American a lot of us was"t effected by the shut down but some were and those are the one don"t like Govement and if you don"t like Govement you should"t be in Govement I"m out their in world I see what going on in this country the tea party are ones who shut down Govement 10 second after Obama got in office they were saying I want my country back nothin change it the same Kentucky fried place it alway was the tea party alway trying to make all the money but wine up losing money all the time is a joke.

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Charles_and_Angie_Howell commented on Thursday, Oct 17, 2013 at 17:16 PM

Is this English? Olde English? Frisian? Some dialect I am unfamiliar with?

Learn some grammar and punctuation, please!

Passinthru commented on Saturday, Oct 19, 2013 at 21:07 PM

You are right, Mandrake, the Tea Party is trying to prevent the country from changing into the alien entity that Obama and his extreme left faction appears intent upon making it.

That is why they (the Tea Party) are called Conservatives, because they want to conserve the traditional values that have made this country great and its people the envy of the world.

theflyonthewall commented on Sunday, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Let's play word games: conservatives want to conserve the status quo ( not so hot right now); progressives want to progress.

The tea party is the reincarnation of the John Birch Society supported by the Koch brothers, sons of Daddy Koch who supported the John Birch Society.

The tea party is an ideology bereft of ideas except the elimination of nettlesome taxes and regulations that would discomfit the wealthy. Middle class tea party disciples are being played.

Passinthru commented on Monday, Oct 21, 2013 at 21:18 PM

The rules of the word games apparently include the diktat that premeditated misquotes can be used whenever facts are not available to support assertions.

“Conservatives ... want to conserve the traditional values that have made this country great and its people the envy of the world” is the true quote, which does NOT include the mongrel blending of socialist mandates, progressive directives and Marxist theories that are part of the “status quo”.

As for “progressives want progress” the question begged is “progress towards what?” After all, "progressive” is only the latest in a string of labels adopted by the extreme left, other labels that have preceded it have included “collectivist, communalist, Marxist, socialist, Trotskyist, syndicalist, Stalinist, etc.”, so wouldn’t replacing “progressive” with “regressive” be more appropriate?

.....and why is the organized left so terrified of the TEA Party? Is it because this truly grass roots voice of the people is a demonstration of TRUE democracy?

If further proof is needed of the fear of the left, witness the unsubstantiated attacks on the TEA Party by the last commenter.

theflyonthewall commented on Monday, Oct 21, 2013 at 22:14 PM

The tea party has been hijacked by interests that have little interest in representing the aspirations of most Americans. Recent polls indicate that the the tea party is held in low repute by most Americans.

My point was that you were committing the fallacy of equivocation. The long list of "ists" that you have provided does not describe the political scene now or at any time in American history. On the other hand, the Progressive Movement at the turn of the century ended child labor, enacted pure food and drug laws, reined in the trusts ( permitting the efficient working of the free market), and assisted the moment for womens suffrage---a laudable record.

By the way, no one is terrified of the tea party moment which will soon implode and go the way of the Dodo and the Know Nothing Party.The tea party is yet another example of the many factions within the "disorganized" right. Republicans need to doff the funny hats and shed the Confederate flags and remember what the Republican Party used to represent.

Climegeist commented on Wednesday, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The most powerful anti-capitalist action by elected officials in the past 30 years was the shutdown. We were within a day of bringing the full faith and credit of the United States into question, thereby destabilizing the entire global financial system brought about by Reagan and Thatcher and institutionalized by the WTO and treaties like NAFTA. The Tea Party almost dealt American-style global capitalism a crippling blow, and certainly tarnished it by bringing it to the brink.

Write about socialist la-la land all you want, Passinthru, but the Tea Party ideologues willing to sacrifice capitalism to stop a Republican engineered, market-based (albeit highly imperfect) healthcare plan from going into effect is the biggest domestic threat to capitalism since your bogeymen.

Climegeist commented on Wednesday, Oct 23, 2013 at 13:02 PM

The shutdown cost the economy somewhere around $12 to $24 billion dollars, by the way.

The no-compromise, never raise taxes, brink the government to the bring and extract concessions style of Tea Party politics is costing the country big time. Several liberal, conservative, and nonpartisan organizations have run the numbers on what it costs us. One nonpartisan organization suggests it has cost us a full percentage point of GDP over the past few years and several hundred thousand jobs. To read more about their methodology, check this out:

It's pretty simple though: if things are more chaotic and uncertain, then the likelihood of failed investments increases. If you're a capital lender, this means you lend less and raise interest rates. That in turn means less capital being invested to create new stuff and new jobs.

The Tea Party makes America more chaotic and uncertain every few months. If the anti-democracy wing of Republican party (aka Tea Party funders - Koch, etc.) hadn't gerrymandered the country so bad with the Red State Plan, then the 1.5 million more votes for Democratic house members in the last election would mean changes in Washington. Instead Tea Party nut jobs (and around 80% of all Congressmen) have safe districts, meaning they do not have to be accountable to their constituents. So, we have the electoral politics that brought about the Tea Party wave to blame for the gridlock in Washington one can get voted out of their districts now.

Except maybe John Barrow...Statesboro is in the only House swing district in all of Georgia, although it was recently altered to make it easier for Republicans to win.

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