You seem to see everything through the distorted prism of one sided politics. Half the country, the Right, has absolutely nothing positive to offer and deserves only insult. The other half promised you the Elysian fields and has failed to follow through, creating your bitterness. Maybe you should pay more attention to the wisdom of Virgil?
“Time speeds by, Fly, and we lose it in lamenting. Here comes the place where cleaves our way in twain. The road, the right, toward Pluto's dwelling goes, And leads us to Elysium. But the left Speeds sinful souls to doom, and is their path To th' accursed Tartarus, where the Peacock President dwells” (Aenid, sort of)
Yes, it is depressing ,and we need to do something about it. Your quotation from Virgil is apropos since the history of this country seems remarkably similar to the history of Rome. We could learn something from history and from literature. If we are not careful,there will be but one path and we will all be strolling through fields of asphodel. I don't agree with que sera, sera --seems rather fatalistic but thanks for responding anyway.
"...the history of Rome."
Seems to me that the Roman decline began when they turned their backs on traditional Roman values and sought selfish pleasures.
Well he could be "half democrat and half republican", but I doubt it. I am very conservative and I don't see that he has done crap that even resembles the Republican Party.
Charlie, you mean the traditional Roman values of empire building, pillage and enslavement of conquered peoples? I suggest The Fall of the Roman Empire by Peter HEath for an exhaustive (indeed, much too detailed) treatment of the decline of the Roman empire. Many factors which had nothing to do with the actual residents of Rome but with the far flung Eastern and Western empires.
Bryant, mos maiorum of the Roman Republic.
The Roman Republic was built around the household, and faithfulness, honor, and service were expected.
I am not going to argue the Roman Republic was perfect, but I will stand by my belief that it the Roman Republic was strong, until the Roman Empire eroded those values through the pursuit of power and personal pleasure.
Charles, Yes the Roman Empire began its slow decline when it ceased being Roman and Romans abandoned some of the fundamental values that led to its greatness. Additional reasons for decline should also resonate with contemporary Americans.
1. The importation of cheap wheat from Egypt and the rise of the latifundias ( large estates worked by slave labor) impoverished the yeoman farmers who then flocked to Rome to become a large "mob" trapped in generational poverty.
2. Pollution: all of those lead pipes, lead salts used to clarify wine.
3. Political infighting--- the history of Rome is the history of civil war.
4. Disastrous wars in the Middle East. Shappur captured a Roman emperor and used him for a footstool after one Roman defeat.
5. Greedy governors fueled barbarian unrest.
6. Short term economic interests stifled innovation.
7. Unsustainable military expenditures. The Romans had grabbed all of the easily obtainable loot early on and were forced to defend territory that did not generate so much loot.
8. Failure to understand the enemy. Varrus underestimated the Germans and several legions were slaughtered as a result.
History never repeats itself exactly ,but we would be wise to draw some conclusions from history.