The modern county of Egypt was founded in 1953. For Centuries Prior to that Egypt was conquered by a secession of foreign powers and therefore not really under home rule. FYI from 1550 BC to about 350 BC Egypt would have been considered to be a Super Power in the ancient world.
So we have about 970 years to go before we can match them in Super Power status. Hopefully at that time the US will still be around so that someone half a world away can make comparisons on how his or her country is more modern than the ancient democracy known as America.
Yours is an invidious comparison. Egygt has few natural resources, a scarcity of arable land, limited water,a large impoverished largely illiterate population , and a history of foreign domination and exploitation. The US is blessed with abundant natural resources, a history free of foreign domination,and a largely literate population. The larger question is why we have suffered steady decline over the last forty years.
The answer to this question does not reside in any one political party .Both parties are culpable. The answer is to be found instead in the breakdown of the family, in the loss of any sense of community,in the erosion of any sense of civic responsibility, and in the corruption of the true significance of the American dream.
The business of America is not business. The business of America is America. At present our politics has been hijacked by business interests and every aspect of American society has been corrupted by the mindless scramble for personal aggrandizement.Quite simply ,the country is much more than a business address ,and we should not lionize the Bill Gates, the Zuckermans, the Trumps whose only real significance has been the accumulation of wealth. It is past time to return to basic principles.If we do not make drastic changes, no one will want to come here, and we will be remembered as yet another civilization fallen from greatness just as Egygt is remembered as a civilization fallen from greatness.
Fly:You mean like South Korea until the United States arrived and showed them how to govern and prosper under Capitalism!The business of America is business, not Big Business helping Big Government Socialist Democrates and Progressive Rino Republicans grow the government in exchange for their special tax cuts. Get rid of the income tax,for a sales tax and we will have a free market again.
Did you buy the the Sloganmaster 500? For a little more you could have purchased the Sloganmaster 1000 ( larger vocabulary and more powerful platitude generator) .
Flowmaster, excellent points and well presented.
Fly, I do not believe Bill Gates deserves to be included in the same category as Donald Trump. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation does some excellent philanthropical work.
Bryant, Bill Gates isn't giving anything away. His "missionary" work in education places heavy reliance on online education and quite frankly some of the stuff he he's been pushing is not educationally sound, profiting no one but those who stand to make a lot of money selling educational software.Bill stands to make a lot of money at the expense of students who will receive an inferior education.
Bryant: You agree with Flowmaster that Egypt was a Super Power of the ancient world. Egypt built it's power using slavery, that the Pharaohs and his ruling class lived very well from.That is why we speak about their past. We to our credit, did away with the Southern States slavery. I would not call them a Super Power.
To suggest that if America had been founded six thousand years ago today’s moral values would have somehow become valid at the same time is nonsense. We would have been subject to the same level of human development as the Egyptians and gone through the same slow growth process. Democracy, if you remember, was not developed until the Greek era.
Your comment is like saying that the ancient Egyptians had only horse drawn chariots but had we been in their place we would have had F-22s.
No, what I am saying is a society built on Freedom is far Superior to a society built on the Old World Concept of a dictator, a King or Pharaoh, propped up by his Ruling Class, that live extremly well at the expense of the inslaved masses. The closest thing to the USA in ancient times were the Phoenicians. A small county (present day Lebanon) who were free traders of the ancient world and had the higest standard of living for all it's people at that time. Freedom Works!
Fly, you are as hidebound in your obvious distaste for people who are financially successful as Ironside is about Democrats. I suggest you look at the areas the Gates foundation finances other than education, such as health and sanitation in Africa. And, yes he is giving it away to the tune of $ 100 million dollars. Will he get a tax break - bet your bippy. But do not belittle the efforts of those who have been fortunate enough to be enormously successful and who do give back to the world community.
And Ironside, Egypt was a superpower of the ancient world, that is not a debatable point. And slavery was common. Even the Greeks had slaves. As did the Romans - and the British - and the Americans. And, you seem to forget that the freedom delineated by our Founding Fathers did not extend to everyone.
Your comparison of the US to Egypt is flawed on numerous levels.
I stated that to our credit we eliminated slavery in our Southern States. We are and have been thanks to our Founding Principles in the Declaration of Independence unique in this world as the champions of Individual Freedom. It is what has allowed us to grow and prosper. Our Delaration speaks to the future of mankind free from the ancient world thinking that the rights that a man has are what the government, the ruling class and the king says he has. We Americans changed that way of thinking. We Americans are the future of mankind. Jump on board and grab an oar,would love to have you as a fellow American. Freedom for everyone!
America is a wonderful place Ironside but comparing it to Egypt is like comparing apples to oranges. A better question that I think will still make your point is: Why is Russia no longer a superpower?
Good point. I used Egypt because it is front and center in our news. Your point about Russia is a good one. The Soviet Union collapsed like all Socialist States do, they ran out of other peoples money.Thanks to Ronald Reagan he exccelerated the collapse. Putin has not changed their government to extend freedom to all. Thus they will remain a lesser player on the world stage. Putin will insure that Russia will remain against American interests.
If Gates wants to be charitable perhaps he should treat his employees decently.Gates also has been pushing tor visas for foreign tech workers in order to depress wages. And here's another radical idea:real charity should not require a tax break. I think he should just pay the tax and forego the look -at-me ego stroking.
I am not "hidebound" about people who are financially. successful ,but I do think that some of our putative heroes have feet of clay. Why not respect those who actually contribute something to society? It shouldn't be that hard to find financially successful people who understand that charity does not come with strings attached.