Yes, Fly. This is the world we now live in.

I am saddened by this. I wonder if this is what the Hippies had in mind all those years ago.

Sow the wind; live to reap the whirlwind.

I'd like to see the you tube video of this kid studing the tensile strength of a peach limb and it affects on the lower posterior. I have a masters degree in this subject. More than once I was black and blue from about 3" above my belt line to about 3" above the back of my knees. Thank You Dad...

Children are the reflection of the family they are a part of. The family is where children learn values and morals. What has happened to the Traditional American Family. It has been under assault since the late 1960's by our popular culture to become anyting other than Traditional. What have we done in all these years to help strengthen the Traditioal Family?

this kid is suffering the same side effects of a disorder a lot of kids are suffering with these days.
its called AWDS:
ass whipping deficiency disease

Ironside, the other folks who post mention 'discipline.' I agree. Yet in many cases corporal discipline is twisted into 'child abuse' by the Liberal Leftist who seem to dominate social services (it is a natural fit, I admit) and half the courts.

Add atheists and anarchists to the mix and a parent MAY find him/her self outnumbered by children who do not wish to be disciplined and their allies.

It takes a strong parent, and a strong parent needs support, role models, and examples. The media and popular culture have torn all those down.

I know how stuff works in my house. That is all I can really do. I can tell you the person in that video would not exist in my house. He would have been raised - differently.

So according to Charlie Howell "atheists" are a significant factor in his perceived lack of classroom discipline.

I would be interested to hear more from Charlie on the methods used by these devilish creatures to override the authority of parents and teachers and why Agnostics, Wiccans, Baptists and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are not given equal credit for their efforts in this direction??

Charlie, I hardly think political leanings have the impact you ascribe to them. Nor do I believe the hippies of the 60's and 70's played that large a role considering the relatively small numbers. Nor atheists and "anarchists". You and I are of an age - religion was not a big deal in my schools from grades 1 through 12. We might have a prayer before an assembly and always before a football game but that was it.
Religious instruction came at my house and my church. And, the same with discipline - which carried over to school. You behaved yourself and showed respect or you got two whippings.

I haven't watched the video and don't intend to - it only encourages the idiots to see how many "hits" they get.

Passinthru and Bryant,

My reference to "atheists and anarchists" is that they seem to be the natural allies of children who oppose being disciplined. I find A LOT of correlation between folks who oppose traditional parenting and their stated positions as atheists and anarchist.

On Mother's Day, I heard from a man who said he would wish his mother a happy Mother's Day when she apologized for circumcizing him and spanking him as a child. Investigating him and his community further - SURPRISE! Self proclaimed Anarchist and Atheist. I have been unfriend by one time friends who (instead of respectful debate) just disengage from the conversation. They are... anarchists and atheists.

Furthermore consider that BOTH tags are - by definition - a rejection of authority.

Which brings me back to my original comment to Fly and Ironside. Fly said, "An uncomfortably large number of Americans has absolute contempt for authority, for education,for teachers,for art ,for history or literature, or for music of enduring quality.This is barbarism.Weep for the nation,yo." Ironside said, "The family is where children learn values and morals. What has happened to the Traditional American Family. It has been under assault since the late 1960's by our popular culture to become anyting other than Traditional." I said (and still maintain) exactly what I said.

Charles and Angie Howell: My post was not on the issue discipline or an a_ _ whipping, that was wildturkey's post. Children need discipline. I raised four girls and found that taking away something they enjoyed to punish bad behavior worked for me. Must of my discipline was directed at how my girls treated each other. The only time I had to ues the back of my hand on them was when the screamed and shouted at their mother. It only took one time receiving the back of my hand to get their attention that they would never again disrespect their mother.

Our society does not educate young adults on how to be good parents. No high school class teaches parenting. I would tell my students that the most important job they will have in their life is raising their children to be good productive, God loving, members of the commuity. If the child is in a disfuctional family, what they see their parents or parent do will effect them in one of two ways. They will most likely model their parents disfuctional behavior and the cycle continues, or they will do the opposite (the right things, the resposible things) with teir own children, rejecting their parents.

Finally, We use to teach parenting on TV. In the 1950's and early 60's, we had Father Knows Best, I love Lucy, Leave it to Beaver. AlL were traditional family settings. Then came My Three sons, The Brady Bunch and other non traditional family settings. Today we have "Progressed" to Two and a Half Men. I believe we are sending all the wrong signals in our culture, that affects our schools, creates the welfare State,and addes to our society's drug use and prison rate. Teach the right things and you get good results. Teach the wrong things as the new norm and you get bad results.

Ironside, Charlie. My apologies for dragging you into this. My post (#5) was directed at all previous posts, and I see a common factor in them. You (rightly) see a breakdown in the traditional family, the others (rightly) see a lack of discipline and self-discpline in this individual.

I see both issues in the same light, same time, same place, same root cause. We (America) have a breakdown in family and culture values because we no longer enforce traditional child rearing. We no longer enforce traditional child rearing because we have weak (weaker, weakening) familiy and cultural values.

How right you are!

"It takes a village to raise a child" - problem is the village all got high one night and decided that if their children were failures and juvenile delinquents it was all someone else fault.

"Here is a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy......

Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The land lord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy
Lood at me I am happy
Don't worry, be happy
Here I give you my phone number
When you worry call me
I make you happy
Don't worry, be happy
Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got not girl to make you smile
But don't worry be happy
Cause when you worry
Your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy (now).....

There is this little song I wrote
I hope you learn it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
Listen to what I say
In your life expect some trouble
But when you worry
You make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Don't worry don't do it, be happy
Put a smile on your face
Don't bring everybody down like this
Don't worry, it will soon past
Whatever it is
Don't worry, be happy" - Bobby McFerrin