“Fish Kill Cause may never be known"…???
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Seriously?

From Thursday’s Statesboro Herald: “In a statement released Wednesday, EPD spokesman Kevin Chambers said, “The Georgia Environmental Protection Division (EPD) has concluded that drought related conditions are the likely cause of a fish kill in east Georgia’s Ogeechee River, but an exact cause will never be known.”

How can the Georgia E.P.D. and spokesman Chambers not know? Who’s paying these people? It shouldn’t taxpayers if the E.P.D. can’t figure this out. The entire county knows exactly what caused the fish kills.

And what the heck does “no evidence” mean? Of course there is evidence. “You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows” as one of my favorite song writers said.

Holli had her reporter suit on when she wrote that the textiles plant is suspected by some to be a contributing factor. The textiles plant is clearly the pivotal factor and it is known by all.

I realize that people’s jobs are important, but should we just say the heck with the river and let it become a cesspool? This is going to continue to happen unless the obvious is stated by the E.P.D. and something is done to stop it. If the “EPD determined the plant is operating in compliance with current requirements” then the “current requirements” are obviously inadequate.

Does anyone on here disagree that the E.P.D needs to question and re-evaluate the current compliance requirements for the plant? If not the E.P.D., then who?


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gawalkman commented on Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Kids, don't try this at home.

What if, and I do say, what if...

What if someone gathered some fish from somewhere else along the river and placed them where they were found? What if some fishermen caught them at the place they were found, but left them behind? What if it is part of a game played by teens/young adults? What if it is a conspiracy against the plant by individuals or groups who want to cause trouble for the plant?

No, you are not watching a preview of "Conspiracy Theory 2". However, it does make one think of the possibilities.

Mystery commented on Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Come on Walkman!! Get real??

OldBlue commented on Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 22:01 PM

What happen to innocent until proven guilty? The news media has twisted the facts, took things out of contexts, pointed fingers, misrepresented the truth, accrued the EPD, EPA, Governor and lawmakers of excepting bribes. They want so much to have someone to blame and punish them, they don’t care who they hurt or destroy. What happen to fair and balanced reporting? I remember when reporters was told to resign if they didn’t have verification of what they were reporting. I can’t believe this is happening in America. The EPA, EPD, DNR and Riverkeepers has spent tons of taxpayers money investigating King America and has not found anything to connect them to the fish kill. The news media has already convicted King America without any real evidence and has rallied the community against them. It’s like a stark eating frenzy. And this is the second year in a row this has happen. King’s good reputation has stolen form them. This newspaper and especially one of it’s reporter is obsessed with destroying King America and reporting untruths and accusations. And then the rest of the media pickups on this and repeats without any poof. The same information has been repeated in this paper so many times without anything new, just to make King America look bad. The Riverkeepers are guilty of the same. What if King America has not done anything connected to the fish kill like the evidence and the EPA, EPD, DNR has said? Does the news media and the community owes King America an apology? They also need to apologize to the EPD.

Scindapsus commented on Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 22:25 PM

OldBlue,

I haven't been involved in this situation, so I don't have the firsthand information you seem to have. So which parts of the story are false?

* Was there no fishkill?
* Did the fishkill actually start upstream of the KA effluent pipe, not immediately downstream of it?
* Were there no chemicals in the water immediately downstream of the effluent pipe?

OldBlue commented on Friday, Jun 08, 2012 at 06:07 AM

the EPD said the river is deeper upstream and sallower downstream and this could be a factor for last year. But last month it was 3 or 4 miles from kings before a dead fish was found. only at the 301 bridge area and Oliver Bridge. why was none reported dead in between the two bridges? they are chenicals in the river. everything is made up of chemicals. but only traces of chemicals were ever found at the dicharge pipe, well inside the permitted limits. But it was first reported as traces, then chemicals, then high amounts and then as extremly high amounts of chemicals. this year they were mostly mirrows that died and the isssue was blow out of proportion.

Bryant commented on Friday, Jun 08, 2012 at 10:41 AM

I commented yesterday but I guess it was lost in the ether - Some people are never going to accept any finding by the EPD except King Finishing is guilty of intentional, rampant pollution of the Ogeechee.

I am disappointed in the "apparent" lackadaisical response by the EPD to the first episode. But, since I do not know all the facts I refrain from openly criticizing them.

watchpig commented on Friday, Jun 08, 2012 at 12:07 PM

It seems to me we need a balance between business and the environment. Today we don't have this balance. The left wing nuts want to convince us that business is bad and the right wing nuts want us to believe that if left alone business would act like little angels.

It seems to me that King was doing something wrong last year (hence the fine for dumping without a permit) but I see no reason to believe that is the case for these couple dozen fish to have died this year. Perhaps it was just an act of God!

I know let's get the riverkeeper to sue God for not making enough rain and making the river too shallow in the summer. I'd love to see how he could possible defend himself in court from those accusations.

frustratedmonkey commented on Friday, Jun 08, 2012 at 14:01 PM

EPD ain't nev said that old blue. You the one telling lies. River ain't deeper north f that plant. Bull. You nuts.Stuff floats downstream too and them fish ain't died immediately. Aint nuttin left in that river but what they restocked with - fingerlings,

OldBlue commented on Friday, Jun 08, 2012 at 22:48 PM

From the Sav. Morming News Website:

http://savannahnow.com/news/2012-06-0...

Ussery said the dead fish were farther from King America Finishing in this recent fish kill.

“Last time the dead fish were within inches (of the outflow),” he said. This time we found stressed a fish quarter-mile downstream and dead fish three miles downstream.”

Differences in the river itself above and below the plant could influence where fish get more stressed, he said.

“It’s narrower and deeper upstream, I’m told,” Ussery said.

“Why are we not seeing (a fish kill) upstream but seeing it downstream? It’s farther, but water temperature does seem increase because of the river morphology.”

watchdog commented on Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 14:23 PM

Tim Barrett with DNR and Dianna Wedincamp with Ogeechee Riverkeeper disagree with Ussry. The river is not deeper north of the plant. They both say there is no difference in water temp or depth - common sense will tell you as well that there is not a difference. Common sense also tells you that the river flows southward, as does anything deposited into it.

Ironside commented on Monday, Jun 11, 2012 at 17:05 PM

You are right. What are we paying the EPD to do? The Riverkeepers discovered the killed fish, the source of the kill, did the lab work on the waters samples and finally brought the legal action that forced King America to pay a million dollars to clean up the river. So what did EPD do to earn the millions of taxpayer dollars they receive each year?


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